Bar (di properti)

Ulasan untuk Clink i Lár

2 out of 5
Clink i Lár
35-36 Abbey Street Upper. Dublin1, Dublin

Ulasan

8,4

Sangat Baik

Penilaian 10 - Sangat Bagus. 76 dari 169 ulasan" "
Penilaian 8 - Bagus. 56 dari 169 ulasan" "
Penilaian 6 - Cukup Baik. 24 dari 169 ulasan" "
Penilaian 4 - Buruk. 9 dari 169 ulasan" "
Penilaian 2 - Sangat Buruk. 4 dari 169 ulasan" "

8,6/10

Kebersihan

9,0/10

Staf & layanan

8,0/10

Fasilitas

8,4/10

Kondisi & fasilitas properti

8,6/10

Ramah lingkungan

Ulasan

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Edvard

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Das Personal und das Frühstücksbuffet waren sehr lecker
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024

6/10 Cukup Baik

Brian

Bepergian bersama teman
Disukai: Staf & layanan
For what you get very very expensive
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hi,Thanks for taking the time to leave a review, we hope you had a great time in Dublin.Our pricing is competitive and dynamic to competition in the city, we're sorry to hear you felt this was a little bit pricey, but trust you had a great time in Dublin regardless.Hopefully we will see you again soon :)

8/10 Bagus

Ingo

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Sehr gute, zentrale Lage. Nur ca. 5 Minuten Fußweg nach Temple Bar. Einfach aber praktisch, alles nötige ist vorhanden.
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hi Ingo,Thanks for the awesome review and for staying with us during your trip to Dublin, we hope you enjoyed the city!All the best :)

4/10 Buruk

R Lalit

Tidak Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hey!Thanks for staying with us, we are sad to see a 2* review.If you would like to email us directly with feedback that would be much appreciated.Wishing you all the best for your onward journey.

8/10 Bagus

Daniel

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hey Daniel!Thanks for the great review and for staying with us!Hopefully we will see you again soon :)Take care!

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Lilian

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
El lugar está bien ubicado en el centro Las habitaciones me parexiefon pequeñas, pero cumplen su función Cada una de las camas cuenta con cortinas y conexión a electricidad y una pequeña lámpara de lectura Los lockers son espaciosos aunque no se tiene una caja fuerte adicional para guardar cosas de valor Tienen lugar para dejar tu equipaje para antes del check in y después del check out, tienen costo pero es genial si llegas antes y quieres recorrer la ciudad
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hi Lilian!Thanks for staying with us and for taking the time to leave such an awesome review, we hope to see you again soon at Clink I Lar!We hope you had a great time in Dublin and wish you all the best for your onward journey :)Take care!

6/10 Cukup Baik

Juan

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
Tidak Disukai: Kondisi & fasilitas properti
El hostel está muy bien para pasar un par de días, pero al no tener cocina no lo recomiendo para una estadía más extensa. Las camas están bien pero no funcionan los enchufes y entonces no puedes cargar ningún dispositivo por la noche.
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 26 Mei 2024
Hey Juan,Thanks for stopping by and for taking the time to leave a review.Our maintenance team are working on resolving the issue regarding the bunk outlets, this should be fixed as soon as possible.We do not have a shared kitchen facility, however we do serve a delicious breakfast and our bar has some great deals on meals :)We hope you enjoyed Dublin!All the best!

8/10 Bagus

Douglas

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Rooms are simple and basic, with a prison cell theme, buffet breakfast good value at €10.50, 5 minutes walk to O'Connell street and the Ha'penny bridge, couldn't fault it and would be happy to return.
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 21 Mei 2024
Hey Douglas,Thanks for staying with us and for taking the time to leave a great review!We hope to see you again soon, all the best for your future travels!

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Michelle

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Clean, central location, nice people to meet
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 21 Mei 2024
Hey Michelle!Thanks for the awesome review and for staying with us during your time in Dublin we hope you had an amazing time!All the best :)

8/10 Bagus

Erin

Bepergian bersama keluarga
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
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Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 19 Mei 2024
Hi Erin,Great to see a 4* review, we hope you had an amazing time in Dublin and at Clink I Lar!See you again soon... hopefully ;)

10/10 Sangat Bagus

paola

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - Front of House Manager pada tanggal 19 Mei 2024
Hey Paola!Thanks for the 5/5* review!All the best and take care :)

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Karl

Disukai: Kebersihan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Gut für eine Nacht
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 16 Mei 2024
Hi KarlThanks for staying with us and for leaving a great review.Hopefully we will see you back in Clink I Lar sometime soon :)All the best!

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Delphine

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Super séjour, personnel hyper serviable, chambres propres et bien aménagées, sécurité au top, emplacement idéal et tarifs imbattables. je recommande
Menginap 9 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 16 Mei 2024
Hey Delphine,Thank you for staying with us and for leaving such a great review!Thank you for enjoying our awesome staff and great facilities.We hope to see you again soon?!All the best :)

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Sebastian

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
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Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 16 Mei 2024
Hey Sebastian!Thanks for the awesome review!We hope you had a wonderful time in Dublin & at Clink I Lar :)Take care and all the best.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Miranda

Disukai: Fasilitas
Leuk verblijf hier gehad.. schoon en netjes ziet er allemaal gezellig uit.
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 10 Mei 2024
Hi Miranda!Thank you so much for staying with us and for the wonderful review.We hope you had an awesome time in Dublin and wish you all the best for your onward journeyTake care :)

8/10 Bagus

brian

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
New
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Mei 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 9 Mei 2024
Hey Brian,Thanks for the 4/5* review!We hope you enjoyed Dublin and had a great onward journey!Take care :)

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Hege

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Rent og pent
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Hey!Thank you for the lovely review.Hopefully we will see you again soon.All the best

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Talia

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Great accessibility to city center of Dublin and friendly staff.
Menginap 4 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hey Talia!Thanks for the awesome review and for appreciating our gorgeous staff. Amazing that you also enjoyed the idea location of the hostel.Take care and all the best!

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Megan

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 7 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Hey Megan!Thanks for leaving an awesome 5* review.Hope you loved Dublin just as much as it loved you!!Take care

6/10 Cukup Baik

Presley

Menginap 1 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Hi presley,Thanks for leaving your review, we hope you had a safe and fun onward travel.All the best

8/10 Bagus

Presley

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
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Menginap 1 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Hi Presley!Thanks for leaving an awesome review.Wishing you on the best for your onward travels!Take care

8/10 Bagus

Stephanie

Bepergian bersama teman
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
We loved our stay! We were in a private double on the top floor, so it was pretty quiet for us. The hostel is close to the canal and temple bar area, so walkable to a lot of tourist sites and restaurants. Staff were delightful and we felt very welcome. The only thing that was slightly inconvenient was the size of the shower. The opening to get in is only about 18” wide, so if you’re a larger person, you might have a hard time using it.
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hey Stephanie, Thanks for taking the time to leave a lovely review and for enjoying our facilities and the wonderful staff we have! (We will pass the compliments along!)The showers are a standard shower size, however we do appreciate the feedback.We hope you had a lovely time in Dublin and that you'll be back soon!All the best

8/10 Bagus

Pierre

Bepergian bersama teman
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Facile à trouver. Proche des zones de vie. Pas de télé pour le prix Rue pas très éclairée
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hi Pierre,Thank your for staying with us during your time in Dublin and for taking the time to leave a review.Our location is ideal for a great weekend away, close to all the local amenities and attractions.Unfortunately we cannot control the lighting on the streets around us, this is a Dublin council issues, we we're glad to hear you found your way home each time ;)Hope to see you again soon.Until then, take care and all the best!

8/10 Bagus

John

Bepergian bersama teman
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Great location. Bed not particularly comfortable but the place is clean modern, with good facilities. Storage lockers in basement.
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hi John,Thanks for leaving your review and for staying with us.Sorry to hear you were not cozy in our new beds, but great to hear you enjoyed the facilities and appreciated the clean space!See you again soon?!All the best.

6/10 Cukup Baik

MARIA

Bepergian bersama keluarga
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Tidak Disukai: Fasilitas
We enjoyed the diversity of places to visit and eat as the hotel is located in the very center of Dublin, but the area is overcrowded, therefore somewhat overwhelming. We found one EKG sticker on one of the towels we rented. It was very gross.
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hi Maria,Thanks for taking the time to leave a review and for staying with us during your time in Dublin!Sometimes the social areas can get a bit hectic with other guests also enjoying the space, but hopefully this didn't impact your stay too much! We love to see all our guests enjoying the social spaces.Thanks you for the feedback on the issues with your towel.Our housekeeping team have been notified to make sure things like this don't happen again.All the best & take care.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Fabio

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Great facilities
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hey Fabio!WooHoo!Thanks for the 5/5 review and for enjoying the fabulous facilities.All the best.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Fabio

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Perfect
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hi Fabio!Amazing!! Thanks for staying with us and for your wonderful review.We hope to see you again soon at Clink I LarAll the best

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Thom

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Hey thom!Thanks for the 5 stars!Glad you had an awesome time :)

8/10 Bagus

Daniel Tobias

Bepergian dalam rombongan, Bepergian bersama keluarga
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
War genau im Zentrum. War im Mixed Dorm und wenn man kein Party Mensch ist dann ist ein Dorm Wahrscheinlich zu laut, waren leider alle nicht leise. Aber Unterkunft selber war gut, Bett gut bis auf die Steckdosen, die tatsächlich einmal nicht gingen, was aber am Abend dann repariert war!
Menginap 6 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hey Daniel!Thanks you for staying with us and for taking the time to leave a review :) Great to hear you had a lovely time.We're glad to hear the light maintenance issues were corrected to make your stay more enjoyable!Agreed, sometimes the dorms can get a bit lively, some people just can't be tamed when enjoying a wild time in Dublin, we recommend staying in one of our gorgeous private rooms next time your in town.All the best for your onward journey.Take care

10/10 Sangat Bagus

María

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Lo mejor es la localización, literalmente a 5 min andando del famoso temple bar. La zona es bastante segura y hay muchos comercios y opciones para comer barato. El personal también ha sido muy amable!
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hi Maria!Thank you for staying with us and for your fabulous review!We hope you enjoyed Dublin, we would love to see you back here soon?!All the best

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Christine

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 2 Mei 2024
Awesome!!Thanks for the 5*See you again soon ;)

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Darryl, Shawnigan Lake

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Better than we imagined! Naimh & Mike, impeccable service & super nice! Would recommend to everyone!
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Alex - FoH Manager pada tanggal 1 Mei 2024
Hey Darrly, We're happy to hear we exceeded your expectations!Thanks for taking the time to review our hostel and letting us know about the fabulous service form our flawless team!(We'll be sure to pass the compliments along!)Hope to see you again soon.All the best.

6/10 Cukup Baik

Denia

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
El alojamiento en sí está bien, pero si quieres dejar la maleta te cobran, quieres toalla te cobran, por la taquilla también, en resumen si pagas por todo casi has pagado la habitación sola en un hotel barato. Ah y la cama no estaba hecha, solo te dejan las sábanas encima para que las pongas tú…así que recomiendo comparar bien.
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 8 Apr 2024
Thanks Denia for your feedback. Being an hostel in a very expensive city, we try to keep our price competitive by not adding extra services so guests can choose or not to use/bring. Sorry you felt this was not communicated enough on our side. We will review.

8/10 Bagus

Donna

Disukai: Staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Lovely, helpful staff. Great location. Really enjoyed my staff here.
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan April 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 4 Apr 2024
We are delighted to hear you had a great stay. Hope we see you again soon.

6/10 Cukup Baik

makino

Tidak Disukai: Kebersihan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
施設設備は新しく綺麗。 部屋内の床には常にホコリがあって清掃回数は謎。水回りやゴミ箱等は毎日してそう。 ゲストが使えるキッチンがないので、自炊したい人には不向き。スーパー等は近くに数カ所ある。ランドリーが専用アプリでないと使えず割と不便。
Menginap 4 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 4 Apr 2024
Thank you Makino for your detailed feedback. We have onboarded a new cleaning company a month ago and are working on catching up on cleanliness. We hope we get to host you again in the future.

4/10 Buruk

John

Tidak Disukai: Kebersihan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Had two long red indentations on my leg when I woke up from the metal bars/frame within the mattress. Huge amount of external noise and banging in the hallway till 2am . Incredibly dusty which played havoc with my asthma. Thought I'd upgraded to a deluxe room but it felt almost like a prison. A really uncomfortable and dusty one at that. Took until the following day for my neck and back to stop hurting.
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 8 Apr 2024
I am really sorry to hear John. Our rooms are checked by pest control regularly and we have never found anything in particular. All our beds are made of steel for this reason. We have onboarded a new cleaning company and catching up with deep cleaning. We will be upgrading our mattresses in our private rooms soon. We hope you will consider us again in the future.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Renate

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 4 Apr 2024
Thanks Renate for this perfect score. See you soon.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Gianina

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 4 Apr 2024
Thanks Gianina for this perfecr score.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Ki Ki

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Nice staff, have elevator
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Thank you! see you in Amsterdam, London or Dublin.

8/10 Bagus

Zachary

Disukai: Kebersihan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Good for the price
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Thanks Zachary. Safe travels

6/10 Cukup Baik

Amber

Disukai: Kebersihan
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Thanks Amber for the rating, don't hesitate to reach out to share more detailed feedback.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Liana, Silton

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
The location was most important to me as found walking much easier to get to my tours.
Menginap 4 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Thank you! We agree, our location is top notch.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Charlotte

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Perfectly adequate for a 3 night stay. Couldnt fault how clean and tidy it was. Easy walk to everywhere we needed to be. When venturing further pulic transport was easily accessible. Great place!
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Many thanks Charlotte.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Kelly

Bepergian bersama teman
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Central location, our private room was compact but with well enough room, and the staff were really nice.
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 28 Mar 2024
Thank you Kelly. See you soon.

8/10 Bagus

Davide

Disukai: Staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Menginap 3 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 22 Mar 2024
Thanks Davide. We hope to see you again soon.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Elizabeth

Bepergian dalam rombongan
Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Great location! Easy access to everything, clean and safe.
Menginap 4 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 19 Mar 2024
Thank you so much Elizabeth

6/10 Cukup Baik

Branon

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
I stayed here for about a week. The positive is that the pricing is great, especially for the location. It's about a 5-10 minute walk from the Temple Bar area and I loved the access to shopping nearby. The major drawback is that my bunk was without electricity for about half of my stay, which would be about 3 days. This meant that to charge my phone I'd have to go sit in a common area for hours. The staff was kind and offered a power bank so I could at least go out and about.
Menginap 6 malam pada bulan Maret 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 13 Mar 2024
Thanks Branon for you review. We are sorry your bed electricity was not working while you stayed with us but we are glad our team offered you an alternative. We hope to see you again soon.

4/10 Buruk

James

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan
Menginap 2 malam pada bulan Februari 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 13 Mar 2024
Sorry to see we did not meet your expectations, do not hesitate to get in touch to share feedback. Safe travels.

8/10 Bagus

Allison

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, kondisi & fasilitas properti
Tidak Disukai: Kenyamanan kamar
Only thing I would say is maybe better mattresses that aren’t just the cheapest plastic spring mattress and if you’re going to make a king size bed might as well get an actual king size bed and not put two singles together rolling over the middle of the two beds was not very comfortable
Menginap 1 malam pada bulan Februari 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 13 Mar 2024
Thanks Allison for your suggestion. We are currently testing single and double mattresses for our private rooms to improve comfort level. Hope to see you soon.

10/10 Sangat Bagus

Emily

Disukai: Kebersihan, staf & layanan, fasilitas, kondisi & fasilitas properti
It was really nice in the Hostel, the bed was clean but the floor was a little bit dusty.
Menginap 5 malam pada bulan Februari 2024
Tanggapan dari Berrie pada tanggal 13 Mar 2024
Thanks Emily. We will work on the dust issue. We have a new cleaning company on it as I write....